Vaccines

Where can someone go to get good quality information about vaccines from a trustworthy source?

I get my information from people who trust and understand science.  The best resource for parents nervous about vaccinating would be Dr. Ari Brown’s page on the vaccine controversy.  She covers every major question about vaccines, and her answers are an intelligent rebuttal to the antivaccine celebrities. You can also check out the sites Vaccinate Your Baby and Anti-Antivax

The Q&A listed below are some of the answers to questions that I’ve investigated and found at reliable science-based sites.  I hope that they inspire you to continue researching.

Why does Science-Based Parenting defend vaccines?

I approach this “controversy” from an evidence-based perspective. The antivaccine advocates have failed to produce any legitimate research as proof that vaccines cause autism. Opponents to vaccination rely on anecdotes from parents searching for a reason that their child became autistic, but they completely fail to offer a biological explanation backed by quality science. Instead, the anti-vaccine argument quickly turns to a vast pharmaceutical conspiracy theory.

You and I may not completely trust the profit motivations of pharmaceutical corporations, but that doesn’t mean they are a cabal of evil overlords plotting to purposefully give children autism; the idea is ridiculous and meritless.

Vaccines are closely monitored- new vaccines can take up to ten years to be introduced in the schedule, a web site is set up to document adverse reactions, and all vaccines are kept in check by the CDC.  It’s easy to accuse members of the scientific community of being in the pocket of “Big Pharma”, but the best way to challenge research is to replicate the study or identify any systemic flaws.

At least 77% (often more) of children entering kindergarten have been vaccinated, but less than 1% have autism.  There is obviously not a direct correlation between vaccines and autism, which means that vaccine opponents must conclude that vaccines are triggering the genes for autism.  Doesn’t this take us back to square one – autism is genetic?  If antigens (proteins that induce the bodies immune system to produce antibodies) are causing autism (we don’t know that they are, but if…), we must look at the many antigens that are bodies are constantly exposed to on a daily basis and not just at vaccines.  We can’t raise our children in hermetically sealed plastic bubbles, and any parent that insists on an absolutely safe environment is falling victim to the ‘perfect solution‘ fallacy.

Who is this Andrew Wakefield guy who claims to have found a link between the MMR, autism, and bowel disorders?

He’s been completely discredited. If you want the longer version, you should check out Harriet Hall’s excellent article detailing the problems with Wakefield’s study.

Which studies disprove a link between thimerosal and autism?

American Journal of Preventive Medicine – August 2003 – Paul Stehr Green

Pediatrics – September 2003 – Kreesten Madsen

Journal of the American Medical Association – October 2003 – Anders Hviid

Pediatrics – September 2004 – Jon Heron

Pediatrics – September 2004 – Nick Andrews

Institute of Medicine – 2004 – a review of 200 epidemiological and biological studies or the relationship between thimerosal and autism

Pediatrics – July 2006 – Eric fombonne

The New England Journal of Medicine – September 2007 – Bill Thompson of the CDC

Archives of General Psychiatry – January 2008 – Robert Schechter and Judy Grether

Are vaccines filled with harmful toxins like antifreeze, formaldehyde, hydrochloric acid, and mercury?

No the ingredients in vaccines are not as toxic as Jenny McCarthy would have you think.  The dose makes the poison, not the toxin.

Ethylene glycol (antifreeze) is not an ingredient in vaccines;  the actual ingredient is polyethylene glycol, which sounds the same but is completely different.  It’s kind of like saying that salt has chlorine in it.

Trace inert amounts of formaldehyde can be found in vaccines, but only a microscopic amount compared to the amount encountered in auto exhaust and the modern environment.  We are even exposed to formaldehyde when we digest fruit.  It’s not some toxin thrown in for sinister purposes.  Formaldehyde insures that vaccines are sterilized so your children don’t get a flesh-eating Strep bacteria.  And if all that info isn’t enough, the point is moot because formaldehyde chemically breaks down in aqueous solutions like vaccines.

Hydrochloric Acid is being used on vaccines, but only to balance the PH titrates to neutralize alkaline vaccines.  We aren’t talking about vaccines dripping with bubbling acid.  Antivaccine activists who latch onto these toxins lack an understanding of chemistry, or they’re using these scary ”toxins” as scare tactics to fool the average person.

The origin of the toxin argument started with thimerosal, a preservative made from ethyl mercury.  Thimerosal was removed in 2002 from all mandatory childhood vaccines as a precaution, but doctors were allowed to use their leftover stockpiles after the recall.  A 2002 study of pediatric offices showed that no more than 2% of thimerosal vaccines remained in overstock.  Despite the 2002 recall and subsequent decrease in mercury-based vaccines, the rates of autism have continued to increase.  You can read more about the thimerosal controversy at the Mainstream Parenting blog (Part 1 and  Part 2).  The same increase in autism rates occured in European countries who eliminated thimerosal decades ago, to the argument that mercury causes autism has been dead for a long time.  If you’re worried about mercury, stay away from tuna sandwiches, not vaccines.

The failure of the thimerosal argument has only prompted the anti-vaccine activists to search for another toxin such as aluminum, a common ingredient in breast milk and formula.  The mainstream Parenting blog addresses the use of aluminum in vaccines.  It acts as an adjuvant to stimulate an adequate immune response.

How do we know whether the reason diseases declined were vaccines and not the advent of modern sanitation and hygiene?

There are no doctors, scientists, or scholars who take this claim seriously.  The CDC gives an excellent response to this myth here.

Measles nearly disappeared three years after the introduction of it’s vaccine in the 1950s.  We can all agree that America had excellent sanitation and hygiene in the 50s.

There has been a 76-86% decrease in vericella (chicken pox) since the vaccine was introduced in the highly sanitized decade of the 1990s.

Japan, Great Britain, and Sweden relaxed their policies on the pertussis vaccine, and the result was skyrocketing rates of pertussis.    The same thing happened in the UK with a huge spike in measles rates after the MMR controversy.

Can’t immunized children still get the diseases for which they were innoculated?

Yes, but that fact can be misleading.

One study pointed out that unvaccinated students were 35 times more likely to contract measles compared to those who were vaccinated.  Vaccines work for 85-95% of immunized individuals.  Those who are not vaccinated have a 100% chance of contracting the diseases to which they are exposed.  The risks are worth it.

Haven’t the rates of autism risen as the number of mandatory vaccines increased?

The increase of autism is real, but part of the skyrocketing rates are a statistical illusion caused by a widening of the autism spectrum and an increase in detection.  More vaccines have been added to the schedule, but the number of antigens have decreased in proportion.

What about Robert F. Kennedy’s hit piece in Salon and Rolling Stone that characterized a cabal of doctors and scientists conspiring in seclusion to protect vaccines for “Big Pharma”?

Skeptico and Orac both covered how this article quote mined and misrepresented public transcripts.  I encourage you to visit their criticisms or RFK Jr.  I also want to add that Rolling Stone was forced to publish several different corrections of the original article.  RFK Jr. still accuses the CDC of being in a conspiracy.  He has always said that thimerosal in vaccines trigger autism, and he stated to me personally that he still believes this despite the fact that autism rates have risen in the seven years since thimerosal was removed.

What about the legal victory of Hannah Poling?

Hannah Poling’s previous mitochondrial disorder was aggravated by vaccines causing multiple symptoms, two of which are on the autism spectrum.  This is a highly complex case of one girl, and is not an appropriate example of vaccines triggering autism.

15 Responses to “Vaccines”

  1. Angela Says:

    I just wanted to let you know that the reasons for not vaccinating, or selectively doing so, go so far beyond autism. There are more things to consider than just autism, and also it should be considered that we know nothing about autism, so to rule anything out is premature.

  2. Ticktock Says:

    I’m sure you know that the autism scare is the reason there has been a spike in parents who don’t vaccinate. You don’t list other reasons, but I doubt any of them are science-based.

    We don’t know the causes of autism, but we can certainly rule out vaccines based on several quality studies. Also, the flipside of your argument is that to rule specific things “in” is premature.

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  4. NothingButTheTruth Says:

    There is NO safe level of mercury in any carbon based life form…that includes us. We have mercury based fillings in our teeth, and we have millions of Americans that are being cremated with their mercury fillings still in their mouth. That mercury goes into the air that we breathe. I don’t believe in a link between autism and vaccines, but I DO know that there are trace amounts of mercury in our vaccines and dental fillings. Plus, I just google searched sodium flouride, ya know, the stuff in our toothpaste and drinking water that is supposed to make our teeth whiter? Well, I just found out that sodium flouride is the active ingredient in most rat poisons, and that we (the US)are the only advanced civilization that uses flouride in their water supply. Why? Thank God we have a new president that seems to actually care about us.

    • Ticktock Says:

      There are safe levels of mercury. The dose makes the poison. You can find mercury in the average glass of tap water or in a slab of salmon.

      I think the mercury that you need to worry about is the kind coming from the coal fired power plants, not crematoriums. The mercury in our mandatory vaccines have been eliminated, and you can request thimerosal-free flu vaccines if you prefer. The mercury in dental fillings is locked in, but if you are afraid you can ask for ceramic fillings and take your chances with those.

      Actually, fluoride is a natural ingredient in water that we moderate so that it’s only one part per million. You need to google better. Hexafluorosilicic acid is the ingredient that makes calcium fluoride in water… not sodium fluoride. Britain puts fluoride in their salt. Australia uses fluoride. You are wrong.

  5. Hero Says:

    I use sea-salt and our County in Britain and most of Europe does not have fluoride in the water. We use non fluoride toothpaste for our son (2 years old) because he swallows it. Fluoride does not have to be swallowed to be effective in reducing tooth decay. Toothpaste with fluoride is OK for adults if you choose to use it, but to put it in the water is a form of mass medication and potentially harmful and even fatal especially if a case of fluoride overfeed occurs.

    the following book has information about specific incidents of fluoride overfeed;
    Water Fluoridation Principles and Practices
    By Awwa, Bill Lauer, Frederick Rube

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  7. Matt Says:

    People who are against vaccinations are innately selfish (and let’s face it, ignorant) folk who are not only putting their own children at risk but also everyone else’s due to the diminished herd immunity.

  8. Lenore Skenazy Says:

    Thanks for ANOTHER great post. It is hard to defend vaccines because it is such a hot button issue. But it’s true: there’s a difference between anecdotes and science and science says vaccines are not the cause of autism. Now if only we could find what IS! Lenore “Free-Range Kids” SKenazy

  9. Roxanne Nelson Says:

    While the adamant pro-vaccine and against vaccine groups get most of the coverage, and the autism issues gets most of the press, the majority of people who question vaccine safety simply want just that–they want safe vaccines. They are not opposed to vaccinating their children, they just want issues to be addressed and not brushed aside. They want their children vaccinated as safely as possible, but for far too long, vaccines have been a “sacred cow.” Question anything, and you immediately lumped together with the extreme opposition.

    As a healthcare professional who worked for many years in pediatrics, I would say one issue is that we have no idea how safe it is to give an infant so many vaccines (some now give 5 at one time), and so close together. The human race has never had so many vaccines, and more and more keep being added to the vaccine schedule. An infant has an immature immune system, and to bombard it with so many different vaccines, all at the same time, and then at very close intervals–well, we have no idea. Don’t let anyone tell you that its “safe” because no one knows. There is no long term data.

    But what we do know is that there is a dramatic increase in life threatening allergies, for one. The number of people with asthma in the US. has increased throughout the 1980s and 1990s and shows no sign of abating. Could this be related to vaccines, even partly? That immune systems are out of whack? It’s possible.

    Anyway, those are the issues that I see. And when some doctors recommend a less intensive vaccine schedule, one less likely to cause damage or any adverse events, they get laughed at or told that they are “dangerous” or putting the child in danger. Just because someone came up with the current vaccination schedule, doesn’t mean its the best one. For instance, why are newborns being given a Hepatitis B vaccine the day after birth? Hep B is transmitted the same way as HIV, so why does a newborn need the vaccine? What’s wrong with waiting until school age with that one?

  10. Ellen Says:

    Kudos for this website – I found it from Science Based Medicine.

    Roxanne, I am not a medical professional, but from my reading I have learned that there are actually fewer antigens in the total number of vaccinations that are given today than were given in the polio vaccinations of yesteryear. Today’s vaccines are more targeted to the individual diseases. Dr. Mark Crislip did a great podcast on the relative levels of antigens in vaccines in his Quackcast series.

    And I’m curious about the link you make between asthma and vaccines. Is it just the correlation you noticed, that children now have more injections and there are more cases of asthma?

  11. greg praus Says:

    ja and the soldiers that received the anthrax vaccine are doing awesome , and vaccines distributed to third world countries never had birth control in them, keep collecting the dividents from your big pharma shares

  12. greg praus Says:

    vaccines like so much else on this Earth, including this blog are good and bad, how would you feel if your healthy child gets vaccinated and then develops problems immediately after , well its just a cooincidence …….and imagine Ticktock, looking for answers that are “science based” keep looking
    This is a huge leap of logic by anyone’s standards. Not everyone gets cancer from smoking, but cigarettes do cause cancer.

  13. Rachel Says:

    Great post. I completely agree with Roxanne. I am uncomfortable with the huge number and aggressive schedule of vaccinations given to kids these days. My son’s pediatrician was very receptive to my concerns and we agreed to spread out vaccinations over several months instead of all in one visit. It required a lot more trips to the doctor (I chose to go through the county’s public health system, which is cheaper for everybody), but knowing that my kid’s immune system wasn’t being inundated all at once was worth the inconvenience.

  14. republicofhealth Says:

    Vaccines contain nothing but dangerous substances. Vaccines are filled with chemicals (in doses that are harmful) like formaldehyde, mercury, and genetically modified human and animal tissue. These toxic chemicals cause autoimmune responses which lead to ailments like diabetes, autism, and seizures.

    @Matt:
    Just because you are too ignorant to find out what is in vaccines does not give you the right to force these toxic chemicals on other people’s children.

    People, don’t let these people tell you what to do with your body and your children’s body. Take some responsibility and do some research.

    @NothingButtheTruth
    Fluoride is a toxic chemical. It causes cancer. It was first put into the water supplies in Russian gulags and then Nazi concentration camps.

    For more information check out my blog at http://RepublicofHealth.wordpress.com

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